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.......to win the Richard, Ross and Selke in the same season?


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Never been done, but certainly not impossible. Given the growing Cappies' ever-increasing commitment to team defense....especially after finally figuring out that such is far easier with a big lead (Hey, I've been a diehard since right after the 'Skins snagged their first Super Bowl, so I'm entitled to at least a shred of exasperation), it has given me pause to consider the feasibility of such a feat.

Personally, I don't see anyone else even coming close in terms of that potential, ie, to be the most complete forward in the NHL for a season.

Put it this way: in this regard, Ovechkin = Richards + Crosby + 1 blue-chip 1st + future considerations.


Who knows, In 20-30 years, they may just have an annual Ovechkin Trophy awarded to such a player.


Uncle Ted would explode with joy. Mario would shit a brick and throw it at Crosby. Buttman may just quit hockey forever. Planets would coordinate their aligning to a Caps' winning streak. Mexicans would stop beating their wives......you get the picture. Clearly, the benefits would be both immediate and everlasting.


Methinks he's got at least one NHL-style Triple Crown in him........ya think?

He might be considered for selke some other year but not this one,I don't think.I mean, come on, even with plus/minus there are better defensive forwards.

That said, Mike Green will probably be considered for the Norris again for some reason.....perhaps that Chara and Lidstrom are both floundering some this year won't hurt.....

I don't know about the Selke but I think he has a real shot at the Hart if we keep winning. I think we are 11-1 since Ovechkin became captain and lost 3 before for that. That brings leadership to his points, goals, goals per game, hits, shots, +/- and really sets him apart from the rest of the league.

I would really prefer he be the first Capitals player to hoist the Cup. And soon!

Nope. Just like the same problems with Greenie and the Norris ... Ovie's supporting cast will hurt him come awards time.

I don't see Ovie winning the Selke anytime soon. Although I do love his increased effort to backcheck and that will lead to a better trophy hopefully ....

He already brought home a four-pack in '08.

I'd be happier if, when all is said and done, he only got the Conn Smythe when it comes to individual awards.

I don't see Ovechkin winning the Selke anytime soon. His style is too high-risk, high-reward to be that sort of two-way player right now. I have seen him get noticeably better defensively since being named Captain, though, so I don't see why he couldn't win it eventually.

I agree. Probably not going to happen with players like Kesler, Parise, and Richards in the league and at the same point in their careers as him. Maybe he'll be a finalist a few years from now, but I don't see him winning it.

Defensive forwards/selke winners usually play the PK as well. Because Ovechkin hogs so much time on the PP and at even strength, the PK is where they rest him.

Ovechkin has 2.33 total on the PK this year, the Selke winner for the past 2 years Datsyuk has got 55+ minutes this year, and averages over a minute per game on the PK (ovechkin currently averages 3 seconds per game on the PK)

And Datsyuk has been out for a bit this year, last year he was at 1.36 per game on the PK, almost 3 and a half minutes on the PP and 15 at Even strength

Brind Amor won it the 2 years before Dats, and he was averaging 3 minutes per night on the PK, 5 on the PP and almost 15 at even strength.

It's not that I don't think Ovechkin isn't defensively minded, because he has shown he is, however, in a defense award, they will look at his play on the PK, PP and EV, and he doesn't have the resume on the PK, not because he is incapable, but because he needs rest time.

I don't think he will be in the running for anything but offensive awards for a while

Statistically, Ovechkin and Crosby are close this year (because ovechkin missed games), but if the people handing out the selke consider OVechkin at the end of the year, they would be hard pressed to award it to him over Crosby, who is playing almost a minute per game on the PK too

This is all that matters.

Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.

yes. nothing else.



fyi... I'm not sure about last year, but in '08 he did actually get a few Selke votes.

This: Because it means this:

Ovechkin lost the Hart when the team scored a ridiculous amount of goals with him out of the lineup during those eight games he missed. Not that he cares, mind you. He wants the Cup.

I think, too, to merit serious Selke consideration one would need more than Ovechkin's 3sec/match of penalty-kill TOI (full Caps list: http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm? ... =timeOnIce).

No argument with the notion that it would be much much nicer to see him skating the Cup...the Conn Smythe would be nice too, but bear in mind it has gone to a player at the Cup Final loser five times (Roger Crozier, Glenn Hall, Reggie Leach, Ron Hextall, and J.-S. Giguere).

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with this. I wasn't aware that Crosby was playing on the PK until I watched the recent Pens/Rags game. And I also hate to say it, but he did a good job, even laying out to block a shot from the point which created a short-handed scoring chance.

Didn't I read somewhere that BB didn't want Ovi playing the PK because he kept blocking shots and he might get injured?

I am pretty confident Ovechkin will never win the Selke

Same here, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

While it would be great to do a three-pack like that and bitch slap anyone who said he wasn't complete, I can't see them all coming at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised years from now when he has cooled off a bit and does the sort of shift people like Hull did (ie making his game a more physical, two-way checking type role) that he will be able to excel defensively and get the defensive assignments to snag a Selke win or nomination one day. It would be an impressive addition to all the Cups and titles one day; "Hey, I could do a complete 180 when my team needed it and become the best at the other end of the ice too." The sort of thing that just makes the story better.

On a different note: Does OV playing defense on the PP count? Or sometimes doesn't he play D during 4-on-4 when we need a goal?

I would argue there is a significant difference between (1) going full speed to catch someone and making a play or diving at the puck to knock it away and (2) consistently being defensively responsible in your own zone and on the back check.

Of any of our current forwards, I would say that Backstrom would be the most likely to ever win the Selke.

just a curveball for you all
If the season was to end today............Henrik Sedin would win the Hart .
sorry but it is true

can't say I'd agree. he might, but I don't think it is so clear cut. he only has 2 more points than Ovie and is on the 6th best team overall. Granted he does have nearly double the points of the next closest guy on his team which will help, but I'm just not so sure he'd win it.

I think it'd be Miller right now.